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安徽定远回族王氏,99众筹,稀有类型Q-L330? 求分析

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像是比较稀有的Q的某些分支,勉强接近的是Q-M3。
China
  • Hengbei site (Peng kingdom cemetery of Western Zhou period), Jiang County, Shanxi, 2800-3000YBP: 9 Q1a1-M120, 2 O2a-M95, 1 N, 4 O3a2-P201, 2 O3, 4 O*[134]
    • In another paper, the social status of those human remains of ancient Peng kingdom(倗国) are analyzed. aristocrats: 3 Q1a1 (prostrate 2, supine 1), 2 O3a (supine 2), 1 N (prostrate) / commoners : 8 Q1a1 (prostrate 4, supine 4), 3 O3a (prostrate 1, supine 2), 3 O* (supine 3) / slaves: 3 O3a, 2 O2a, 1 O*[135]
    • (cf) Pengbo (倗伯), Monarch of Peng Kingdom is estimated as Q-M120.
  • Pengyang County, Ningxia, 2500YBP: all 4 Q1a1-M120[134] (with a lot of animal bones and bronze swords and other weapons, etc.)
  • Heigouliang, Xinjiang, 2200YBP: 6 Q1a* (not Q1a1-M120, not Q1a1b-M25, not Q1a2-M3), 4 Q1b-M378, 2 Q* (not Q1a, not Q1b: unable to determine subclades):[136]
    • In a paper(Lihongjie 2012), the author analyzed the Y-DNAs of the ancient male samples from the 2nd or 1st century BCE cemetery at Heigouliang in Xinjiang – which is also believed to be the site of a summer palace for Xiongnu kings – which is east of the Barkol basin and near the city of Hami. The Y-DNA of 12 men excavated from the site belonged to Q-MEH2 (Q1a) or Q-M378 (Q1b). The Q-M378 men among them were regarded as hosts of the tombs; half of the Q-MEH2 men appeared to be hosts and the other half as sacrificial victims.
  • Hunnu (Xiongnu) site in Barkol, Xinjiang, all 3 Q-M3
    • In L. L. Kang et al. (2013), three samples from a Hunnu(Xiongnu) site in Barkol, Xinjiang were found to be Q-M3 (Q1a2a1a1). And, as Q-M3 is mostly found in Yeniseians and native Americans, the authors suggest that "Hunnu(Xiongnu) should be in the Yeniseian language family".[137][138]
    • (cf) These discoveries from the above papers(Li 2012, Kang et al., 2013) have some positive implications on the not as yet clearly verified theory that the Xiongnu were precursors of the Huns.
  • Mongolian noble burials in the Yuan dynasty, Shuzhuanglou Site, northernmost Hebei China, 700YBP: all 3 Q (not analysed subclade, the principal occupant Gaodangwang Korguz (高唐王=趙王 阔里吉思)’s mtDNA=D4m2, two others mtDNA=A)[139]
    • (cf) Korguz was a son of a princess of Kublai Khan (元 世祖), and was the king of the Ongud tribe. He died in 1298 and was reburied in Shuzhuanglou in 1311 by his son. (Do not confuse this man with the Uyghur governor, Korguz who died in 1242.) The Ongud tribe (汪古部) was a descendant of the Shatuotribe (沙陀族) which was a tribe of Göktürks (Western Turkic Khaganate) and was prominent in the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms period of China, building three dynasties. His two queens were all princesses of the Yuan dynasty (Kublai Khan's granddaughters). It was very important for the Yuan dynasty to maintain a marriage alliance with Ongud tribe which had been a principal assistant since Genghis Khan's period. About 16 princesses of the Yuan dynasty got married to kings of the Ongud tribe.
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wakhas1 发表于 2017-6-22 18:26
西匈奴的M3应当是未经SNP验证的,存疑。

应当是比较罕见的中亚Q类型后裔。
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西匈奴的M3应当是未经SNP验证的,存疑。

应当是比较罕见的中亚Q类型后裔。
Yungsiyebu 发表于 2017-6-22 18:30
谢谢老师的解答,以后有机会再做个SNP.
3# Yungsiyebu

我判断可能是 Q1a3a*-L53+,M3-。东欧亚地区是不会存在M3的。楼主确实属于很罕见的类型,这个支系可能真的可以印证始祖传说。

楼主可以关注 Q-L330这个支系。这个支系,就我个人的猜测,应该是是古代北亚地区最重要的支系之一。

https://www.yfull.com/tree/Q-L330/
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3# Yungsiyebu

我判断可能是 Q1a3a*-L53+,M3-。东欧亚地区是不会存在M3的。楼主确实属于很罕见的类型,这个支系可能真的可以印证始祖传说。

楼主可以关注 Q-L330这个支系。这个支系,就我个人的猜测,应该是是 ...
Ryan 发表于 2017-6-22 22:18
我赞同版主的看法。之前的乃曼网友也测出了Q L330 非M3这一支。而据我所知,并非所有Q系的印第安人都是M3这一支, 如蒙大拿州的Clovis婴儿就不是了。所以我认为印第安人父系的源头有可能来自中亚地区偏北阿尔泰山地区一带。
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23魔方测试结果:父系Q-BZ1464,母系F1a4a ,求分析!
本帖最后由 Ryan 于 2018-4-4 20:59 编辑

如果确实是 BZ1464的话,那就属于 Q-L940, 不是 L330, 属于 L330的上游 L53的旁系支.  

L940是一个罕见的支系,多年前Poly的三大父系的论文中,刚好测到了一例样本。但在上古的内亚和蒙古高原地区,应该是一个比较重要的单倍群。

https://www.yfull.com/tree/Q/
人类之子全都是为死而生。
              --------《阙特勤碑》
如果确实是 BZ1464的话,那就属于 Q-L940, 不是 L330, 属于 L330的上游 L53的旁系支.  

L940是一个罕见的支系,多年前Poly的三大父系的论文中,刚好测到了一例样本。但在上古的内亚和蒙古高原地区,应该是一个比较 ...
Ryan 发表于 2018-4-4 20:57
谢谢老师的解答!鉴于家族明朝以前是在北京居住,而这片是辽金元时期的统治核心区域,判断应该是这一时期从中亚迁来。Yfull上与我接近的基本分布在以阿富汗为中心的印度、也门、阿联酋等地。怀疑祖上是蒙古军队从阿富汗带到中国的色目人,不知道我这种分析有没有道理?因为现在的阿富汗人都忙着制作人体炸弹,测Y的也不多,希望以后能有机会在这里找到同宗的。
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