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马耳他男孩常染的分析

Admix Results (sorted):

#PopulationPercent
1West_European37.68
2South_Asian26.04
3East_European20.03
4Northeast_Asian15.53


Finished reading population data.  227 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 FIN @ 35.424591
2 Finnish @ 35.520039
3 Chuvashs_16 @ 38.994209
4 Slovenian @ 39.316650
5 Hungarians @ 40.352829
6 Russian @ 40.801105
7 German @ 40.821960
8 Mixed_Slav @ 41.586658
9 Russian @ 41.624111
10 Polish @ 42.451511
11 N._European @ 42.521435
12 Burusho @ 42.619740
13 Pathan @ 43.247849
14 Argyll @ 43.299702
15 Vaish @ 43.839264
16 CEU @ 44.132458
17 Nepalese @ 44.175789
18 Orkney @ 44.260368
19 Swedish @ 44.372513
20 Orcadian @ 44.481682

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% FIN +50% Vaish @ 15.996926


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% FIN +25% Selkup +25% Irula @ 8.493393


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 FIN + FIN + Selkup + Irula @ 8.493393
2 Finnish + Selkup + Swedish + Irula @ 8.560484
3 FIN + Finnish + Selkup + Irula @ 8.781537
4 Finnish + Norwegian + Selkup + Irula @ 8.842047
5 FIN + FIN + North_Kannadi + Selkup @ 9.285529
6 Finnish + North_Kannadi + Selkup + Swedish @ 9.326327
7 Finnish + North_Kannadi + Norwegian + Selkup @ 9.560964
8 FIN + Finnish + North_Kannadi + Selkup @ 9.583309
9 FIN + Selkup + Swedish + Irula @ 9.898274
10 Finnish + Finnish + Selkup + Irula @ 10.003512
11 FIN + Norwegian + Selkup + Irula @ 10.446733
12 FIN + North_Kannadi + Selkup + Swedish @ 10.537654
13 FIN + FIN + Yukagir + Irula @ 10.688303
14 FIN + FIN + Selkup + TN_Dalit @ 10.696924
15 Finnish + Swedish + Yukagir + Irula @ 10.715395
16 Finnish + Finnish + North_Kannadi + Selkup @ 10.744101
17 Finnish + Irish + Selkup + Irula @ 10.760411
18 Finnish + Selkup + Swedish + TN_Dalit @ 10.772790
19 FIN + FIN + GIH + Selkup @ 10.818751
20 FIN + Finnish + Yukagir + Irula @ 10.866049
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Admix Results (sorted):

#PopulationPercent
1Atlantic_Baltic43.55
2South_Asian22.19
3West_Asian20.44
4Siberian13.74


Finished reading population data.  223 populations found.
7 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Chuvashs @ 27.266201
2 Tajiks @ 34.954762
3 Romanians @ 34.988865
4 Bulgarian @ 35.623470
5 Bulgarians @ 35.833782
6 Nogais @ 36.323776
7 Uzbeks @ 37.034039
8 Mordovians @ 37.200836
9 Russian @ 39.263340
10 Hungarians @ 39.279865
11 O_Italian @ 39.933407
12 Jatt @ 40.360443
13 N_Italian @ 40.652752
14 Ukranians @ 40.964924
15 Tuscan @ 41.228298
16 Mixed_Slav @ 41.405037
17 Russian_B @ 41.633125
18 Russian @ 41.777863
19 TSI30 @ 41.947712
20 North_Italian @ 42.198555

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh +50% Russian @ 9.466785


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Chuvashs +25% Chuvashs +25% Piramalai_Kallars @ 5.509231


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Chamar + Chuvashs + Finnish + Tajiks @ 5.217900
2 Chamar + Chuvashs + FIN30 + Tajiks @ 5.286701
3 Chuvashs + Finnish + Kol + Tajiks @ 5.468989
4 Chuvashs + Finnish + North_Kannadi + Tajiks @ 5.498012
5 Chuvashs + Chuvashs + Chuvashs + Piramalai_Kallars @ 5.509231
6 Chuvashs + FIN30 + Kol + Tajiks @ 5.520597
7 Chuvashs + FIN30 + North_Kannadi + Tajiks @ 5.574474
8 Chuvashs + Finnish + Tajiks + Uttar_Pradesh_Scheduled_Caste @ 5.643672
9 Chuvashs + FIN30 + Tajiks + Uttar_Pradesh_Scheduled_Caste @ 5.693431
10 Chuvashs + Chuvashs + Mordovians + Piramalai_Kallars @ 5.733273
11 Chenchus + Chuvashs + Finnish + Tajiks @ 5.735864
12 Chuvashs + Chuvashs + Chuvashs + SAKILLI @ 5.741936
13 Chuvashs + Finnish + Hakkipikki + Tajiks @ 5.780645
14 Chuvashs + Chuvashs + Chuvashs + Kurumba @ 5.789394
15 Chenchus + Chuvashs + FIN30 + Tajiks @ 5.795318
16 Chamar + Chuvashs + Finnish + Nogais @ 5.820364
17 Chamar + Chuvashs + FIN30 + Nogais @ 5.840101
18 Chuvashs + FIN30 + Hakkipikki + Tajiks @ 5.852278
19 Chuvashs + Finnish + Nogais + North_Kannadi @ 5.862078
20 Chuvashs + Finnish + SAKILLI + Tajiks @ 5.870988
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Admix Results (sorted):

#PopulationPercent
1North_European47.46
2Gedrosia24.39
3South_Asian14.36
4Siberian13.55


Finished reading population data.  223 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Chuvashs @ 28.466516
2 Mordovians @ 34.559628
3 Russian @ 35.691570
4 Tajiks @ 37.887920
5 Russian @ 38.952881
6 Mixed_Slav @ 40.313690
7 Russian_B @ 40.382294
8 FIN30 @ 40.771378
9 Ukranians @ 41.014969
10 Polish @ 42.062984
11 Hungarians @ 42.143257
12 Finnish @ 42.452415
13 Belorussian @ 42.659111
14 Swedish @ 42.712944
15 German @ 43.249599
16 Uzbeks @ 43.821445
17 Lithuanian @ 44.177235
18 Pathan @ 44.241089
19 Norwegian @ 44.434643
20 Burusho @ 44.490177

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Finnish +50% Jatt @ 13.671500


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Finnish +25% Jatt +25% Jatt @ 13.671500


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Burusho + Finnish + Finnish + Jatt @ 13.370576
2 Burusho + FIN30 + Finnish + Jatt @ 13.472494
3 Burusho + FIN30 + FIN30 + Jatt @ 13.598995
4 Chuvashs + Finnish + Jatt + Jatt @ 13.619889
5 Finnish + Finnish + Jatt + Jatt @ 13.671500
6 Burusho + Burusho + Finnish + Finnish @ 13.705436
7 FIN30 + Finnish + Jatt + Jatt @ 13.770084
8 Burusho + Burusho + FIN30 + Finnish @ 13.805986
9 Finnish + Finnish + Jatt + Pathan @ 13.856352
10 FIN30 + FIN30 + Jatt + Jatt @ 13.892777
11 Burusho + Finnish + Finnish + Pathan @ 13.924837
12 Burusho + Burusho + FIN30 + FIN30 @ 13.930554
13 FIN30 + Finnish + Jatt + Pathan @ 13.940145
14 Chuvashs + FIN30 + Jatt + Jatt @ 13.948291
15 Burusho + Finnish + Finnish + Sindhi @ 13.957752
16 Burusho + FIN30 + Finnish + Pathan @ 14.009312
17 Burusho + Finnish + Finnish + Meena @ 14.037139
18 FIN30 + FIN30 + Jatt + Pathan @ 14.047976
19 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh + Burusho + Finnish + Finnish @ 14.053150
20 Burusho + Chuvashs + Finnish + Jatt @ 14.064054
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我和马耳他男孩在第十对染色体中共享了一段SNPs,看来要不是Atlantic Baltic (大西洋 波罗的海的)就是西伯利亚成分有共享了。
马耳他男孩K7b染色体常染比例.JPG
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自己和马耳他男孩在2cM共享的部分.JPG
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马耳他男孩常染比例上偏西欧亚, 整体来看是7成西欧亚和3成东欧亚。
Eurasia K3 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

#PopulationPercent
1W_Eurasian69.88
2E_Eurasian30.12


Finished reading population data.  129 populations found.
3 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 GujaratiA @ 1.247557
2 Kshatriya @ 2.115803
3 Kashmiri_Pandit @ 2.157609
4 Uzbek_Afghan @ 2.365198
5 Sindhi @ 3.208454
6 Tajik_Afghan @ 4.117692
7 Turkmen @ 4.790246
8 Kurd_SE @ 5.256831
9 Tajik @ 5.624487
10 UP_Brahmin @ 5.997195
11 GujaratiB @ 6.016324
12 Burusho @ 6.064672
13 Pathan @ 7.011742
14 Pashtun_Afghan @ 8.332719
15 Vaish @ 8.875466
16 Kalash @ 9.757976
17 Punjabi @ 10.569528
18 Meghawal @ 11.356866
19 GujaratiC @ 11.811868
20 Tamil_Brahmin @ 11.842216

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Czech +50% Hazara @ 0.000000
2 50% Hazara +50% Norwegian @ 0.000000
3 50% Croatian +50% Hazara @ 0.256832
4 50% Hazara +50% Hungarian @ 0.324471
5 50% Hazara +50% Lithuanian @ 0.457240
6 50% Bulgarian +50% Hazara @ 0.528516
7 50% French +50% Hazara @ 0.706364
8 50% Tajik +50% UP_Brahmin @ 0.720160
9 50% Albanian +50% Hazara @ 0.746649
10 50% Burusho +50% Tajik @ 0.757977
11 50% Bengali +50% Mordovian @ 0.806914
12 50% Bengali +50% Finnish @ 0.862048
13 50% Hazara +50% Ukrainian @ 0.871211
14 50% Kalash +50% Punjabi @ 0.882746
15 50% GujaratiB +50% Tajik @ 0.891856
16 50% English +50% Hazara @ 0.962086
17 50% Greek +50% Hazara @ 0.972515
18 50% Bengali +50% Russian @ 0.994252
19 50% Georgian +50% Hazara @ 0.998748
20 50% Tajik +50% Tajik_Afghan @ 1.004177


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Adygei +25% Ami +25% English @ 0.000000
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本帖最后由 william0509 于 2016-9-22 19:18 编辑

最近听说有复旦人员把司马氏的父系也解开了,希望能顺便测一测他们的常染,和今人对比一下。这样古汉人的基因也迎刃而解,做到一针见血的效果,免得坛友们争来争去,说这个南那个北的。减少本位主义思想,共促和谐。真相永远是更重要的!
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本帖最后由 wanhuatong 于 2016-9-22 10:46 编辑

马耳他人的东欧亚成分主要是西伯利亚成分,其K7b,K12b东亚成分都为0,看来与东亚人群没有什么交集。
另外一个有趣的现象,即K7b的时候,马耳他人的西伯利亚成分为13多,到了K12b的时候,西伯利亚成分依然是13多,并不像东亚人那样呈现K7b到K12b,西伯利亚成分迅速减少的趋势。可能预示着某一部分西伯利亚成分早在马耳他人生活的那个年代就与东亚人群分离了,现代的西伯利亚人群在马耳他人生活的时代之后还受到过从南方来的人群的影响,
我觉得这个古人的成份更有趣,4.5万年前的西伯利亚乌斯季伊希姆(Ust-Ishim)河边人,包含的更多的西南方向成份,东西欧成份和乃曼相差不多.


Using 2 populations approximation:

1 50% Hazara +50% Sahariya @ 15.687673


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Indian +25% Naxi +25% SANDAWE @ 9.918400


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Morocco_S + Chenchu + Nysha + Vaish @ 8.426116
2 Japanese + Morocco_S + Chenchu + Vaish @ 8.479573
3 Tu + Morocco_S + Chenchu + Vaish @ 8.492227
4 Morocco_S + Aonaga + Chenchu + Vaish @ 8.510759
5 Morocco_S + Bhil + Nysha + Vaish @ 8.514538
6 Korean + Morocco_S + Chenchu + Vaish @ 8.542522
7 Morocco_S + Aonaga + Bhil + Vaish @ 8.571218
8 Morocco_S + Madiga + Nysha + Vaish @ 8.593592
9 Japanese + Morocco_S + Chenchu + Vaish @ 8.597424
10 Xibo + Morocco_S + Chenchu + Vaish @ 8.613555
11 Morocco_S + AP_Mala + Nysha + Vaish @ 8.617906
12 Morocco_S + Aonaga + Madiga + Vaish @ 8.650779
13 Tu + SANDAWE + Chenchu + Vaish @ 8.654086
14 Korean + Morocco_S + Bhil + Vaish @ 8.656080
15 Japanese + Morocco_S + Bhil + Vaish @ 8.670426
16 Japanese + Morocco_S + Bhil + Vaish @ 8.677050
17 SANDAWE + Chenchu + Nysha + Vaish @ 8.686775
18 Morocco_S + Nysha + Satnami + Vaish @ 8.686977
19 Tu + Morocco_S + AP_Mala + Vaish @ 8.690842
20 Morocco_S + Kyrgyzstani + Sahariya + Sahariya @ 8.695413
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9# 紫蔻 你们这是从哪里找来的资料?
用Mal'ta和Ust-Ishim分别同东亚人做one-to-one比较,后者与东亚人共享多几倍。一个原因是:后者的数据平均覆盖率有42x;而前者的太低只有1x,在比较计算用到的不少点上是空的。

在有人开始把一部分公开的古人数据上传到GEDMatch.com的时候,本坛下面这一帖后面也一些比较和讨论:
http://ranhaer.s47-56.myverydz.com/thread-30817-1-4.html

那时上GEDMatch.com的坛友不多,所以讨论不长。

现在古人的数据更多了。值得讨论的东西也应该更多。
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最近听说有复旦人员把司马氏的父系也解开了,希望能顺便测一测他们的常染,和今人对比一下。这样古汉人的基因也凝刃而解,做到一针见血的效果,免得坛友们争来争去,说这个南那个北的。减少本位主义思想,共促和谐。 ...
william0509 发表于 2016-9-22 02:19
古汉人的血统本来没有太多争议,历史一直记载了古汉族是华北或西北起源的民族,春秋战国时期的绝大多数诸侯国都在黄河流域,甚至到了汉唐时期人口的绝对重心仍然在北方,到了宋以后才陆续南迁。衣冠南渡的影响被人为夸大了。近年来的基因检测也证明了古汉族母系M高频,父系也有一定比例的N和Q,整体来说更类似东亚北部的族群。可有些人偏要说古汉族是很南很南的民族,跟南岛和波利尼西亚一样,这不论是跟历史记载还是跟基因检测结果都是有冲突的。

古汉族应该是南北混合民族,在常染上绝对有北方成分,绝对不可能跟南岛一样,不信的话咱们拭目以待。
本帖最后由 wanhuatong 于 2016-9-22 12:02 编辑

12# MNOPS 还停留在父系母系辩人种的年代?人家这都已经是常染色体了。历史时期内北方民族对中原地区的影响也不是你一句被夸大就能解释的。而且也没有人说过古汉族接近南岛和波利尼西亚。
12# MNOPS 还停留在父系母系辩人种的年代?人家这都已经是常染色体了。历史时期内北方民族对中原地区的影响也不是你一句被夸大就能解释的。而且也没有人说过古汉族接近南岛和波利尼西亚。
wanhuatong 发表于 2016-9-22 12:01
父系母系虽说不能像常染那样全面,但至少也能为人群的起源提供一些线索。目前证据不支持古汉族是非常非常南的民族,不信的话拭目以待。

古汉族的北方血统来源应该主要是青铜时代,到了汉唐时期就已经基本定型了,虽然后来又注入了一些北方血统,但基本上不影响整体。
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